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Posted Date: 12/13/2016
Approved Date: 12/14/2016
Approved By: Giantess-Katelyn
Posted By: Movawn
Artist: N/A
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Angelwings 12/14/2016 12:16:54 PM Rating: 4 >types giantessbooru.com >wonders why redirected to pornhum >looks at address bar and sees giantessbooru.com >whipes eyes >nothing happens

MsPaintGTS 12/14/2016 5:29:42 PM Rating: 8 I'll admit that we've been seeing a lot of these sorts of images and animations recently. - Or at least, it seems like a lot compared to usual, this might be due to images being pulled through the site quicker.. Like- it seems easier to dump images. The uploader- Movawn has a current status of almost 4 images a day, even though I suspect it's been far higher in recent days. While- I'm not really a fan, these sorts of images have been argued for in the past- and I tend to agree that pov has a place here, especially when it was the artists intent to make the figure a giantess... But it's also easy to see why it would be frowned upon if the whole front page got flooded with pov images making it difficult to see the giantess pieces that slip in-between these uploads... It has very nearly gotten to that point the last few days... - At least, it seems to me. Anyone else have thoughts on this?-

Serik 12/14/2016 6:21:39 PM Rating: 2 I prefer actual GT content to most pov stuff. The sudden influx really is covering up most of the other pics. As you said, they're recognized as GT, so as long as they're high enough quality, we approve them. There are actually a decent amount in the queue now and it feels quite repetitive approving each one, as most don't feel different to me. Since I was turned to a mod recently, I had been trying to approve good images quickly, most being pov. So that would explain them covering the front page. It's also easier to pump out pov images rather than drawing them, or even making collages. So that would also help explain it.

MsPaintGTS 12/14/2016 6:50:38 PM Rating: 0 I think it's far better to seperate your personal enjoyment of the pics- or distaste of the pics from the actual argument of do they support both a quality and diverse front page and the bettering of the website. Which I think it's hard to argue that in-fluxing a large number of them really does. And as far as 'high amounts of favorites'- Goes... Very few images if any have gotten a lot of favorites in recent weeks at all- And that's especially noticeable in the RL picture pov category. With images barely cracking ten in many cases. So... I don't really welcome this trend with open arms myself. Keep in mind, I'm not arguing they should be removed- just that we shouldn't get into the habit of flooding the site with them, it kinda messes with upload cycles a bit for more traditional artists and slightly dampens the impact each piece uploaded on giantessbooru has- Like we could benefit from slowing down and increasing the quality of what comes through, or maybe just using the quality filters a little more. Just- Something to control what's being seen- to keep the front page a mixture of quality content instead of the things you are looking for getting buried and pushed out of view by a mass of one particular type of image. That's just about all I have to say on this. Just figured I'd post at least one counter-argument while I can...

MsPaintGTS 12/14/2016 7:27:19 PM Rating: 0 - Leaving the subject of the povs behind- I'd like to shift into quality control a bit... I feel like the reason quality filters exist in the first place is for those who don't mind seeing low-quality content, to receive that content rather than it simply being completely weeded out. According to the filters we have one low quality image, and ten or so medium quality on the front page - Meaning out of the eighty works on the front page... sixty-nine of those are supposed to be high quality. It seems like medium quality suddenly represents 'low-quality'- and low quality supposedly represents very very little work. That isn't to imply things marked medium aren't medium quality, but that the medium tag is much more likely to be used on low quality work- than a low quality tag. And even more likely than that, is no tag at all. - Some people might find me talking about quality to be hypocritical, but I've grown a lot in my time here. And honestly do not mind my work being tagged medium or low quality as long as the same standards are applied everywhere. That's the main thing I argue for here, universalized standards. It's a more complicated system and it may be much more of a logistics problem than anything else.. - Just ANOTHER thing to think about while I'm here.

MsPaintGTS 12/14/2016 8:58:03 PM Rating: 0 It really is down to every moderator understanding the basic quality rules for the site, there is a handy (albeit probably outdated)- File containing examples that I'm sure not many people have seen on the upload page itself. I personally think a lot of the work in there has started to resemble in some form or another the work that we are seeing commonly on the site- and even sometimes passing through as high quality. If the moderation becomes a little tighter, the upload flow will slow a bit and increase in quality, and I think those factors combined will attract more interest and promote higher quality works both being uploaded.

Chuck 12/15/2016 12:37:48 PM Rating: 4 This kind of feedback is amazing and strangely seen... which is a pity, since that makes things better when trying to understand users around here. Problem specially comes when there is a lot of work around here. I think I have approved a lot of med-quality pictures, mainly digital renders - textures can be quite... disappointing at times -, and until I recently went back to approving collages those were either med or low, because many times there isn't that much effort put in them and the results speak by themselves. True, we have examples to have a criteria, although in the end many times we let our own perception of quality play a bigger role... but sure, we should be a bit more sticking to the guide we are given. Anyways, taking notes and trying to see what can be fixed on my end.

Angelwings 12/15/2016 1:42:49 PM Rating: 2 Thank you for listening to my little point and turning it into a huge discussion. I believe that these amounts of POV images have less to do with a quality control than with personal tastes. I completely understand that some people really really like POVs exactly as their favorite type of GTS stuff; for me, it is not even remotely GTS-related as I see it as a pure porn/erotics. While, for example, GTS Furry (which are now filter-protected) are the genuine GTS material, because, you know, there are GTS in it. So, maybe, a filter? I see no trouble with the current quality filters; most stuff looks good to me, even if uninteresting. This is my favorite GTS site exactly because good quality front page most of the time. But POVs, on other hand, I think, deserve a filter - more than Furry or Medium quality - because the latter are in any case exactly GTS, as in GTS-BOORU, while former is (in my own opinion, which I don't forcefully promote in any way :) ) not exactly GTS because no comparison. I also used to watch the site in office from time to time, but completely not possible lately :D

Serik 12/15/2016 2:37:11 PM Rating: 0 I was also thinking that a pov filter would work, but I had thought that would be a bit, I'm not sure of a word for it, silly maybe?

MsPaintGTS 12/15/2016 3:10:19 PM Rating: 0 Rather than adding a new filter, wouldn't be easier to just- Make the current tag filter settings a little better? They currently replace the images with a pony and the words 'filtered'- on it. But that only helps you stop seeing things you don't want to see (unless you don't want to see the pony, in which case it doesn't help at all), where what really needs to happen is that you see more of what you want to see. I'm honestly not entirely sure why the current tag filtering system works like that, I wouldn't use it myself until it worked like the other filters. -

Serik 12/15/2016 3:21:46 PM Rating: 2 The tag filtration system doesn't even work for me. I wouldn't have said that was an issue, because I'm okay with a bit of everything. But, if I didn't want to see certain images, they would still show up.

Movawn 12/15/2016 9:32:45 PM Rating: 0 I did not know that I will trouble some viewers by posting POV images and gifs, so I apologize for offending those viewers. I really did not mean to offend anyone, therefore I offer a sincere apology for ruining anyone's day, but I tried to upload unique images that will put the viewer in the ideal situation the image or gif is depicting. One of the reasons I upload POV images and gifs is because I personally do not like seeing other shrunken individuals since it inhibits my imagination and I also feel as if the shrunken individual is is taking my highlight away, therefore I upload POV images and gifs for individuals like me. I also upload images of shrunken or giant individuals that I find unique and have not seen on this site. I apologize again for offending anyone, it really was not my intention. I was just trying to share images I found interesting. I apologize Ms. Brooks for causing you trouble.

Giantess-Katelyn 12/15/2016 9:44:14 PM Rating: 4 PoV pictures are welcome. I agree it's not so nice they're flooding our page, but it's what was in the queue. We'll space out a batch of similar pov pictures from here on out, but may need to make an exception if we're not getting many other uploads. Thanks for your opinion. To address the quality issue, and while we're on the subject of content... A serious lack of uploads from our community has been brought to my attention by GB Admin, MarkM. He reaches out to artists to get permission sharing their work with credit and source. This brings you the high quality collages from our community's artists and it directs new fans their way. It is a lot of work and he has a full time job, family, errands, and the busy life we can relate to. But, he enjoys it, which is what matters. As do our mods. Now, catch this. In one mere day, if each member uploaded --one-- image, it would provide us with a pool of --thousands-- of images that our moderators would be tagging and approving for -months to come-! Just imagine... thousands of new pron images for you to see... mmhh. It'd be so much that we would be looking for a dozen or more mods to help us out! Everyone has the power to contribute to the content we support. We regularly approve the highest quality images first. Thus, low-medium quality images are prone to stay in the moderation queue for days or weeks before getting approved. Imagine if you uploaded an image for GB that you didn't see on the site that day, that week, or that...month. Wouldn't you be wondering why and let it discourage you from contributing again? And yea, sadly it still happens. Now that the queue has been cleared (which is great), we are trying our best to address the complaints that resulted without making a dramatic shift in the way the site is run or scaring off people from contributing or mods from helping approve images. Years and years and years ago, before we accepted low-quality artworks, many new artists in the community felt that this website was judgmental and unwelcoming. There was a strict moderation guide to follow that listed every detail under the sun (over-emphasizing), and 60+ moderators, most of which became inactive. We had complaints from both artists and mods with this method and moderators who'd get offended from being moderated. I was uncomfortable with how the site was being run. This is when my ex and I were GB partners. When we separated, I threw that out the window and welcomed new artists to the site with open arms and later the quality filters were created for our mods best judgement. This is tricky because we all have our own opinions / bias that need to be kept in check. That's not to say that there aren't images we can't accept. For two of the most extreme examples... drawings that look like they were made by a K grade student, obviously, or collages that were masked by someone with 20/200 vision or belligerently drunk. Lol, making artwork while angry and drunk! Anyway, what I define as low-quality is a small .jpg (still) image around 400xX, collages with some visible cut-out lines (I see some get approved as med-high quality that I'd have set to low-quality as personal opinion), pixelation, too much out of focus, etc. In regards to this topic starting on the opportunity of a .gif that I approved, I did in fact overlook the quality filter. I bumped it down to medium-quality. The average size of animated .gifs are small and this image has detail. Both of which, coming from an industry producer, should be an exception to our quality tier as long as these two factors apply. As you might already know, GiantessKatelyn.com is my main website - I've heard time and time again that my fans cum to my video's .gif advertisements. They are only 400-600xX which makes it obvious people enjoy them. Yes, I have my own opinions, and I fully respect and welcome your opinions and our moderators opinions, comfortably, and personal liking. Everyone is more than welcome to make a suggestion on an image's quality filter and tags. It seems we need more image quality-filter suggestions from members, so we can learn from the popularity. When a member becomes a regular at helping with good tag/filter suggestions, it grabs our admin and mods attention in possibly welcoming the member to join our moderation team. *What do you define as low quality? Type it out. Get noticed. Link to an example on GB. Start a constructive debate.* The more response we get here, the better.

Angelwings 12/16/2016 3:08:24 PM Rating: 0 @Movawn Sorry I didn't want to offend you either, I hope you got the better view on my point from my second post. You have my thanks as the active uploader who tries to make the community better, but I also let you know my personal opinion. It is directed not against you, but against seeing only cunts instead of GTS collages and drawing. But yeah, pretty much it is also a problem of content makers who don't upload other sorts of stuff :) @Katelyn Yep, true. TBH, I also always was and now am very hesitant to upload my drawings or collages here because I don't think they are of high enough quality. I only uploaded a couple of my pics but felt a huge shame comparing them to works of Karbo, Ochiko, Wonderslug, Hedin, etc. and stopped. Also there is the "examples of unwanted low quality" section on GB, which actually contains some images which would be considered med- or high-quality by todays standards. I think that section also played some negative role in artists' decisions if to upload their not-top-notch work here :)

Sheela 12/17/2016 10:06:08 AM Rating: 2 Feel free to upload my work so long as it's sourced to www.supersheela.com. I just don't have the patience to do it myself anymore and there's such a massive backlog. I don't mind my stuff being posted here at all, though, if people want to post it and tag it to the best of their ability I'll even moderate it to the best of mine.

Giantess-Katelyn 12/17/2016 5:47:03 PM Rating: 0 @Angelwings You've unknowingly helped everyone here by mentioning the too-low-quality examples because they were outdated to back before we had filters. O__O The too-low-quality examples package in the upload area is now up to date! @Sheela Thanks for letting us share your artwork and best wishes to your upcoming projects!

Sheela 12/18/2016 7:23:05 PM Rating: 0 @MarkM I mainly meant my own personal backlog. There are so many pictures that I don't even remember the last thing I uploaded so I don't know where to begin and I get all panicky about it. Best to just take it out of my hands because I have all this other nonsense IRL to worry about.

Seff27 6/14/2020 12:26:40 PM Rating: 0 @Serik Yeah, same here, the tag filtration system just utterly refuses to work even a little... 4 years later. Are there any plans for improving that, or removing it since it just doesn’t seem to do anything whatsoever? All it does now is make people think they won’t see something they don’t want to see, which gives them a false sense of security. For instance, some people could be very unsettled by gore, but think they’ll be fine because they’ve got it filtered out, and then it’s just... still there. So having one that doesn’t work is just worse than not having one imo. Also, is there actually anyone that it does work for? It’s just, I’ve seen plenty of people saying it doesn’t, but nobody saying it does.

EmmaGear 6/14/2020 11:51:41 PM Rating: 2 Wow this is a 4 year old comment thread. But I went ahead and checked and the tag filters appear to be working for me. Here's how to use them as maybe you're typing them in incorrectly? https://i.imgur.com/wQsIA4u.png - The front page when I took this screenshot featured 3 images of characters with green skin so I figured I would use that as an example. https://i.imgur.com/gYX4ZN7.png - I went to the Tag Filters tab once logged in and entered green_skin as the tag I no longer wanted to see https://i.imgur.com/cleOZPR.png - and sure enough it removed them from view. The only place they still show is if you look at comments and someone leaves a comment on a pic with a tag you have filtered. The tag has to be the exact one used, and if things still get through then there was either a mistake made along the way, or the offending image was mistagged. And if that were the case you can leave a comment with a tag correction.