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docwholigan 2/25/2016 3:07:28 AM Rating: 10

There's no code of conduct that I can find on Giantessbooru. I checked, then I double-checked to make sure I wasn't missing something. I can't find any suggestion that there's a set of rules or code of conduct that we're required to agree to in order to comment on this site, unless it's under the segment required to gain entry to this 'adult website' in which case it's been so long since I've seen it and there is interesting commentary available on the usefulness of EULAs as a means of ensuring a user's behavior; if you own and operate an Apple product, for example, did you know that you are legally bound from using any part of its code in a device capable of detonating a nuclear weapon? Fascinating stuff.

So, as far as I can tell, there's no official minimum standard of behavior for the users of this site. Naturally, there's the generally agreed-upon rule of 'don't be a dick,' which has been enforced in the past with threads being locked, PMs sent to the relevant people involved and the odd banning here and there as a last resort. I'm surprised it's come to that point, really, but in the main it seems as though banning has been a tactic reserved for genuinely disruptive users. I don't have anything in particular against this. It's a system which is largely fair and transparent. When spurious, ridiculous or even outright grotesque comments are left in the public eye and people are able to see what comes of that behavior they serve as ample warning and a yardstick by which to point out what is and is not acceptable in this space. This seems reasonable to me.

So, again. A quick glance around the screen to double-check whether or not there's a code of conduct, set of rules or behavioral guidelines that I'm simply missing? Still not seeing it.

Deleting an image and the comments associated with it in anything other than the most extreme examples of bigotry, incitement to hatred or violence is stupid. Coupled with the fact that this is done without tagging any of the users involved in that thread with a PM to either A.) alert them that this action is unacceptable and they face censure if they continue or B.) tell them what they had written was unacceptable and removed as a matter of course, that then makes it a dick move.

I understand full well the responsibilities of a volunteer position. I've been there myself. I even very briefly considered applying for one of the moderator positions here back in the day in order to help with the backlog, if you can believe that. I think the right choice was in backing down, and god forbid anyone had actually approved that application! You aren't being paid for your effort in anything other than the satisfaction of assisting a community - I use the term remarkably loosely - and knowing that you're helping out a broader group of like minds and similar interests. I get it. It's hard, really. I don't mean to belittle the efforts of any of the mods here, because I do genuinely appreciate the fact that this is an unpaid position which people spend their personal time on.

That being said, there are a few people on the moderator list that (just like me) really shouldn't be there. The people that delete pictures and threads and comments to keep everything fluffy and friendly and safe and cuddly on a website where we regularly beat off to photoshopped images of women crushing thousands; what you're doing in that case is stupid. There are times that comment chains go too far, or the joke stops being funny, or someone just needs to take their finger off the goddamn shift key... but deleting them for no reason other than maintaining some farcical idea of this as a sanctuary from 'meanies' is a fucking joke. Particularly because those rambling, insane commentaries provide some of my best material to work with.

I'm going to drop this here and I'm going to wait and see what happens. I hope that it generates some kind of discussion about either a code of conduct, transparency on the part of the moderator team (and again guys, not meaning to pick on anyone specific except whoever has a beef against fun) or just some way to open these topics somewhere more appropriate than a random image. I quite genuinely don't want to rock the boat for the sake of stirring up shit, but this silent policing is ridiculous.

tl;dr if you're going to delete comments, PM a user to tell them why.

If this gets deleted, just ban me, because I will take that as an incentive to continue making noise about this behavior.
Giantess-Amy 2/25/2016 8:56:46 AM Rating: 0

I want to guess the image was removed because you and Iswear spammed that image with irrelevant comments, like you are right now with your current wall of text. Sorry your comment got deleted, grow up mate.
docwholigan 2/25/2016 9:32:44 AM Rating: 6

That's actually not the latest or only incident where this has happened personally or to others. I'm not your mate.
iswear12 2/25/2016 10:19:19 AM Rating: 0

What I'm confused about is why the image had to be removed? Couldn't just the commented be locked/deleted?
At the end of the day, porn images> comments on a porn site. (Unless the comments provide sources and whatnot)
iswear12 2/25/2016 10:39:21 AM Rating: 2

(And yeah, I almost wanted to be a mod here as well, but the current policies of censoring/purging images en masse turned me off from that. It also kinda turned me off from uploading when I uploaded like 50-60 images when I first joined, and only like 35ish got approved, then the ones that WERE approved got purged down to less than half that.)
Also, @Amy, do you believe I did anything wrong? I defended one user from another who tried to paint him/her in a negative light. Then the person comes around and calls me uneducated, entitled, brags about a (most likely fictional) education, tells me I'm wrong (which I don't feel that I was, given that I wasn't attacking him in my initial post, merely defending the other user), acts as if he did nothing wrong in being a jerk to another user, then eventually does a 180 and ADMITS he's wrong, but spews out all that garbage anyways because he wants "me to know what it feels like". Plus he "wasn't going to reply to increase my frustration" so what difference did it make? At least I made things a little entertaining with my rebuke of that person.
WTK55 2/25/2016 1:16:23 PM Rating: 2

Honestly when it comes to these kinds of situations, it doesn't matter how its handled, there will always be people who get angry how the situation is handled (Like Mark said above "damned if you do and damned if you don't.")
I don't agree with the fact the picture being taken down just to remove all the comment chain (Which was pretty tame for a internet argument.) However I also don't blame the mods for the deletion when they are just trying to keep the peace.

I have been saying this for awhile now but once again I will say it again because I truly believe it could help the site dramatically, that this site needs to be updated with new features. Some of them should be:
1) A user blocking system. So many arguments and flame wars brake out on this site (Normally from the same few people) that it would quickly end alot of the flame wars before they even start if we can just block the users we would not like to see comments from.
2) A tag blocking system. Once again I see snide comments on pictures just because they don't like the subject matter (which in turn start arguments that really shouldn't have even begun).
3) Better user interface. Right now this website runs pretty much on bare bones and it has been since the beginning. I mean whats the point of the voting buttons on these comments if you also cant vote down? Its like the stupid youtube comment thumbs up but no thumbs down. Also this might just affect me, but a "delete all" option for the PM's should be implemented. Awhile ago some troll spammed a few users "including me" for like 2 hours and as such, I have a little more then 700 PMs that have been sitting there cause all I could do is delete them one by one which is pretty ridiculous.

Also this is not a necessity but I do believe it would help alot, I think there should be a chat room feature implemented. This would end the need (for the most part) to lock down comment threads or out right delete the picture in its entirely due to the fact that the users who want to argue could just go to the chat room where they would not be forever permanent on a comment chain. Also more users may feel like they can join in the conversations in a chat room, rather a comment chain.



docwholigan 2/25/2016 1:41:37 PM Rating: 0

Classic Doc. Geared up and ready to start a war with half story in his head.

Let me preface this with an apology and an explanation. First and foremost, I still didn't mean to pick deliberately at anyone specific and especially not Mark. I think it's safe to say that he's probably the main reason this site doesn't arse over and collapse into the dirt. I posted last night when I was tired and had a bunch of other minor shit piling up; this was the ridiculous straw that broke the camel's back. Ultimately it could have been solved with a PM in the right place, so for deliberately stirring up shit, I sincerely apologise. Things were disappearing without warning. With reference to earlier comments, too, this isn't the first and only time I'd seen it happen and not just concerning my own comments, so without knowing Mark was trying to save his busted hand a bit of trouble I was free to conjure all manner of conspiracy about what was going on behind the scenes.

(Seriously, though, Mark. What is it with people and their hands lately? I know three people - you make four - who have seriously injured a finger or hand in the last two days. What's everybody suddenly got against their digits? I smell an M. Night Shyamalan movie in the works. Fingers crossed for you, chief... no joke intended.)

That being said, after deliberating on whether to PM all this to Mark first or to post it, I made the choice to post it publicly because I have a twisted sense that it'll actually result in a net positive. When Mark mentions my tendency to throw gas on the fire? I also like to throw out the baby with the bath water, smash the fly with the sledgehammer and other metaphors for going in full throttle, usually at the expense of the moment. This is, I think, a discussion that ultimately needs to be happening somewhere. It's probably one that'd work far better on a forum or similar, but we do what we can with what we've got.

Which brings me to Mark's point about inactive mods. That's exactly what I meant about the likes of those who really shouldn't be on that list. There's names I see cropping up regularly going 'Bumped!' or 'Fixed tags!' and props to them. As I said already, I've done volunteer positions online before and it's a thankless, grinding job against what seems like the tidal wave of inhumanity that people can drum up against an unseen force they believe is set against them. But if it feels as though you're dragging along dead weight into that task, too, it might be time to tap the glass, see who wakes up and flush the goldfish that aren't swimming, y'know?

I think WTK hits the nail on the head with a couple of points. The 'better user interface' may be a pie in the sky, though - there's limitations to how far you can push a booru setup - but it may be worth spitballing to see what could be included. Tag blacklist rather than filters has been on a few people's mutant wishlists for a while (mine included) so, without wanting to sound petty, I am genuinely curious about what it would take to implement something like that.

Coding costs money and Giantessbooru is free to use. There's a weird overlap here! Has a donation button been considered? I know I've definitely gotten more than a cup of coffee's worth of entertainment out of this place over the almost five years I've been signed up - usually from the comments section, but I digress...

Finally, that code of conduct. It wasn't until I wanted to scream and shout and throw a tantrum that I realised there is nothing official in place to stop me calling, say, iswear a 'bitch-ass jive punk' if I wanted to. Obviously it's not a screaming priority that needs to be put into place immediately, but anywhere there's a bunch of people getting together with words on the internet I think there's a strong case for a visible, accessible list of clear and easily interpreted rules to refer to when you want to grab someone and toss them into the volcano.

tl;dr whoops, but also not whoops for different reasons.
iswear12 2/25/2016 1:59:29 PM Rating: 2

My issue with the whole 'think it might possibly be underage = deleted' is how vague the criteria are for things getting deleted.
Girls who clearly look older than other girls in images posted on this site are getting deleted, while some others, who clearly look young (possibly underage) are allowed to stay.
Case in point- something like this- http://giantessbooru.com/post/view/169274? being allowed to stay
Versus something like this-
http://imgur.com/U3VrNlB
being censored
I have many more examples, that's just one of 'em.
WTK55 2/25/2016 2:24:28 PM Rating: 0

Ik that the picture was put up again, I just forgot to put that in my original comment, sorry about that ^^'
I guess we will all have to wait and see what Katelyn does. Though doc has a very good idea, why not have a donation system? I mean I have been around for the most part since the beginning of giantessbooru. Hell I was around when this was still Sizebooru (before it shut down and Katelyn brought back to life) and I wouldn't mind donating a few bucks.

Also doc, make that 5 people who hurt there hands, not 4. I smashed 2 of my fingers in a cash register at my work a couple days ago and holy shit it still hurts like hell :/
WTK55 2/25/2016 2:31:46 PM Rating: 0

Same, gotta love Jack Daniels ^_^

docwholigan 2/25/2016 2:31:47 PM Rating: 0

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE HATE YOUR HANDS?!

Fun fact: I actually have a serious phobia about something happening to my hands or fingers.
WTK55 2/25/2016 2:36:46 PM Rating: 4

Hmm..... you mentioned a M. Night Shyamalan movie above....

omg......

Its The Happening!!! .....for hands..... The Happening 2: It Happens!

Quick, get Mark Wahlberg and that guy with a hotdog fetish quick! https://media.giphy.com/media/yoJC2vLmjxFNryVvwc/giphy.gif
iswear12 2/25/2016 2:48:22 PM Rating: 4

"Quick, get Mark Wahlberg and that guy with a hotdog fetish quick!"
Oh the things that are said without context around these parts.
Too funny.
WTK55 2/25/2016 2:59:35 PM Rating: 0

Damn skippy Iswear
DudeMeistro 10/19/2022 6:43:47 AM Rating: 0

Wow, I just popped on here because I was curious what the oldest thing posted to this site was. Turns out I'll never know for sure what the answer is, and also didn't expect to stumble on this much drama and politicing going on back in the day on a giantess porn site.